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I saw this blurb via Twitter: http://www.sterlinghershey.com/blog/201 ... ation.html

ENWorld has this as well: http://www.enworld.org/forum/news/29820 ... 010-a.html

So who still does CCGs? Decipher? Fantasy Flight? Will there be miniatures? Will they be pre-paints or metal (personally hoping for the latter -- my dream figure would be a generic jedi with a sprue of different head options for different races, with perhaps other supplemental heads beyond that!).

Let the speculation begin!

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In case anyone enjoys the speculation like I do, here is the thread from Enworld.org: http://www.enworld.org/forum/general-rp ... cense.html

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Confirmation that Paizo does NOT have it!

http://paizo.com/paizo/messageboards/pa ... ePurchased

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I think Mongoose's post said that the company that got the license does RPGs and card games, but not minis but that they had received the license for all three.

My money's on Fantasy Flight Games -- they've got the reputation, and more importantly, they may have the financial resources. I could see them releasing a "Star Wars RPG in a Box" like they did for Warhammer Fantasy.
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So the companies that do NOT have the license are Mongoose, Steve Jackson Games, Margaret Weis, White Wolf, Green Ronin, and Paizo. We can eliminate WotC from the list too (obviously). So who else?
I could see them releasing a "Star Wars RPG in a Box" like they did for Warhammer Fantasy.
That would pretty much kill any interest I'd have in the game then.

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Meh. We have a great game and I have a ton of pre-painted minis. I'm good.
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Lars Porsenna wrote:That would pretty much kill any interest I'd have in the game then.
I'm looking at it entirely pragmatically. In order for the licensee to make money on this, they have to go for mass market appeal. I agree with Sterling that a hook into the Clone Wars is a logical starting point. If I had to guess, I'd see some sort of self-contained boxed set with basic rules, some minis, funky dice with expansions. Then release minis and figs that tie back into the core game.

I have a hard time seeing metal minis for this; it's just too hard to get mass market appeal (read: 12 yr olds) with unpainted metal.

The price point would be the difficult thing. Warhammer Fantasy goes for $99.95, which is way too much for mass market IMHO.
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RPG.net is back up, and here is the thread there: http://forum.rpg.net/showthread.php?t=552022

When I say it would "kill" interest, I'm specifically talking about a boxed set in the same vein (or really a game in the same vein) as the WHFRPG 3e: that is an accessories heavy hybrid boardgame. I don't have a problem with say a $40 boxed set with core rules, dice and a crayon(!), but a $100 monstrosity that WHFRPG has become (That being said, it looks like FFG may be re-thinking this strategy, and several books like the GM's guide are listed as future releases) with special dice would really kill it for me.

I had more, but I don't want to get into a one-sided argument again.

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Lars Porsenna wrote:When I say it would "kill" interest, I'm specifically talking about a boxed set in the same vein (or really a game in the same vein) as the WHFRPG 3e: that is an accessories heavy hybrid boardgame. I don't have a problem with say a $40 boxed set with core rules, dice and a crayon(!), but a $100 monstrosity that WHFRPG has become (That being said, it looks like FFG may be re-thinking this strategy, and several books like the GM's guide are listed as future releases) with special dice would really kill it for me.

I had more, but I don't want to get into a one-sided argument again.
Not arguing, just discussing. :)

Actually, I think I'm mostly in agreement with you. A $100 Warhammer Fantasy-style RPG would kill it for me. Something like Gamma World's RPG-in-a-box might work though (assuming it had a similar price point -- I think that goes for $39.99).

I'm not really super-thrilled about a new edition, but it could provide some good fodder for our campaign (particularly if there's a new minis line).
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NukeHavoc wrote: I'm not really super-thrilled about a new edition, but it could provide some good fodder for our campaign (particularly if there's a new minis line).
Well then one issue that SHOULD be of interest is that this will be current and in-print; Saga (as spiffy as it may be) will not. And this is important (IMHO) for recruitment.

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Hardcorhobbs wrote:Meh. We have a great game and I have a ton of pre-painted minis. I'm good.
They'd really need to blow my doors off to want to switch. I like Saga a lot, and it's certainly hit the sweet spot for the group as currently configured.
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Okay first, I'm largely uninterested in this. I like Saga, we've got a ton of Saga referrence material and hell, I can't even game more than once every few months anyway. No matter who gets what, I don't see myself purchasing any material whatsoever.

Second, I can understand Damon's caution regarding a Warhammer Box Set style implementation. It wouldn't tempt me to buy but I'm not their target audience either, so meh.

In any case I'm only vaguely interested in what happens. If we get some cool ship/character minis, maybe some location maps out of whatever new line develops, then cool. Who cares about the rest?
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Lars Porsenna wrote:Well then one issue that SHOULD be of interest is that this will be current and in-print; Saga (as spiffy as it may be) will not. And this is important (IMHO) for recruitment.
I don't know -- the Saga Edition core rules are cheap and plentiful, so I don't anticipate that being a problem for a while. It's the individual campaign and source books that really kill you. I concede it could be come an issue in the future, but as long as you can get Saga core fairly easily, I think we'll be ok.
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NukeHavoc wrote:I don't know -- the Saga Edition core rules are cheap and plentiful, so I don't anticipate that being a problem for a while. It's the individual campaign and source books that really kill you. I concede it could be come an issue in the future, but as long as you can get Saga core fairly easily, I think we'll be ok.
I see various campaign and sourcebooks at stores all the time. You just have to look and you can find them for retail or less. They'll be out there at the corner of comic shops, at cons, and online.

As for mini's I doubt your going to see anything, unless a mini company got it. So that means Gamesworkshop, Privateer, or Wizkids (or whoever has the clix license). I don't think any of those are really high on the list though. If Fantasy Flight got it they'll likely do an RPG or CCG but no real "goodies". Paizo would have been the best bet for extras we could have used.
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Lars Porsenna wrote:Well then one issue that SHOULD be of interest is that this will be current and in-print; Saga (as spiffy as it may be) will not. And this is important (IMHO) for recruitment. Damon.
I think this used to be a bigger concern than it is now. ANY rpg outside of D&D has always had a smaller rules set and always had that 'might not be in print anymore' vibe. With the latest sundering of the D&D market, I think the ratio of players who are playing 'no longer in print' games has dramatically increased. I just don't think it has that stigma anymore.

As for the availability of the rules, within our group we have multiples of almost every sourcebook. We have a ton of minis. There are online resources like the Character Generator which aren't going away or of which we have plenty of copies. Plus, as Corey pointed out, it's easier than ever to find out of print materials online. It will become more difficult in time, even on the web. But honestly I think we're looking at another 5 years before it becomes really expensive to get the game books. Which we already have. In multiples.

And with Saga specifically, as we've always maintained, it's a nice hybrid between 3rd and 4th edition D&D rulesets. Anyone familiar with either ruleset has a greatly reduced learning curve to join the game. I just don't see it as a huge issue anymore.
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