The Griffin's Crier

Ken and I played a 1000pt fleet engagement last night. We used terrain (dust cloud, asteroid field and planet). The dust cloud was awesome and REALLY affected the fight. There were a lot of missed shots on both sides due to the 2+ stealth.

But again we found that the Decados Tupok'ta Destroyers were just overpowering. I was running two Destroyers, flying in tight formation so they were mostly able to target the same ships with the 6 AD, Accurate, Multihit 3 Slug Guns. It's just unfair.

I want a rematch.

Ok, for my next 1000 point fleet I'm bringing 5 Destroyers.

And you can bring 1400 pts ...

I certainly think that there are effective strategies to use against my destroyers. They're not invincible, by any means. But fighting them REQUIRES you to use a few very specific strategies or else the destroyers just tear you apart. In looking through the fleet lists, I don't see any other ships that can make that claim, regardless of point cost.

I agree. They are brutal at close range, no doubt about it, and maintaining an effective distance -- close enough to hit with long range guns, but outside of your 16" close firing range -- can be a challenge, particularly for fleets that down have the long 36" guns.

I think terrain was huge. We rolled a dust cloud (12"x12"), and asteroid field (12"x12") and a planet. The latter two did not come into play, but the dust cloud had significant impact on the fight. Even one or two misses can be huge when you're trying to take out Bob's destroyers.

You know, if the weapon banks were 4 AD instead of 6 AD, I think the ship would be a lot more balanced. If 3 or 4 dice out of 6 exceed the hull score thats 9 or 12 hits. If all 6 dice exceed the hull, you're looking at 18 hits. If the weapons are 4 AD, you may only be getting 2 or 3 dice exceeding the hull score. That would mean 6 or 9 hits going internal. If all 4 dice hit, it would still be an impressive 12 dice going in.

I'm not suggesting that we change the ship as printed (yet). But I'm thinking about it.

Church fleet with lots of heat guns... cook the crews from far away and they can't shoot at you anymore.

setanta14 wrote:Church fleet with lots of heat guns... cook the crews from far away and they can't shoot at you anymore.

I do like the Church fleets but the Heat Guns are automatically Inaccurate against any ship with active Shields. So with the hull of 5, that means you only hit on a 6. So even with big banks of guns, you don't have that many hits. It CAN work but the odds are against it.

Of course, odds don't count for a hill of beans if it's you rolling, Nate.

I don't really know what I'm talking about anyway... I've seen 15 minutes of the game being played, and never looked at the rules. I was just looking at the minis online, wondering why they are so expensive.

The prices are around average for a ship-minis game.

Damon.

I just noticed that most of the ships come in packs of multiple figures... but still, $20 for a single cruiser figure that isn't as detailed as a fantasy RPG mini? And you need to buy the bases separate?

Lars Porsenna wrote:The prices are around average for a ship-minis game.

Damon.

They come with the bases, unless something changed very recently. And the cruisers are often multipart and a nice size chunk of metal.

Damon.

Seems like the fleet box sets are pretty good deals... maybe after Crimmas I'll consider it.

setanta14 wrote:Seems like the fleet box sets are pretty good deals... maybe after Crimmas I'll consider it.

It's a pretty fun system. And the box set is really all you need for a well rounded fleet, albeit a lower point value fleet. Lance just has the boxed set for his fleet, I think. It's more than enough for a 1000pt fleet, and with one additional purchase you can easily have a 1500pt fleet.

My fleet (Kurgen) is largely based around the new heat blasters, and they didn't work worth a crap against Bob's Decados destroyers.